3197 record deleted error

HI,
i have an access MDB linked by ODBC to SQL2k.
I get a strange behaviour when i do an INSERT INTO to a local Mdb table
from "LEFT OUTER JOINED" SQL tables.
If the related table hasn't related record to the first table,
it get an Error 3167.
This behaviour is not present with MDB tables JOINS.
Who know something about this ?If you are getting an error 3167 in Access then it's likely
an access error - can't tell without the error message you
get. But that's probably the case and you would want to post
your question in an access newsgroup.
-Sue
On 27 Oct 2005 08:05:38 -0700, "merco"
<d.mercanti@.gmail.com> wrote:

>HI,
>i have an access MDB linked by ODBC to SQL2k.
>I get a strange behaviour when i do an INSERT INTO to a local Mdb table
>from "LEFT OUTER JOINED" SQL tables.
>If the related table hasn't related record to the first table,
>it get an Error 3167.
>This behaviour is not present with MDB tables JOINS.
>Who know something about this ?|||well, if i use only mdb tables this error doesn't occour.
So i suppose it's an odbc problem|||Make sure you have a primary key or unique identifier
defined for your tables you are linking. Make sure the
primary key or unique identifier is not an approximate data
type (e.g. float). Try putting on timestamp data type column
on the tables you are linking.
-Sue
On 28 Oct 2005 00:25:17 -0700, "merco"
<d.mercanti@.gmail.com> wrote:

>well, if i use only mdb tables this error doesn't occour.
>So i suppose it's an odbc problem

3197 record deleted error

HI,
i have an access MDB linked by ODBC to SQL2k.
I get a strange behaviour when i do an INSERT INTO to a local Mdb table
from "LEFT OUTER JOINED" SQL tables.
If the related table hasn't related record to the first table,
it get an Error 3167.
This behaviour is not present with MDB tables JOINS.
Who know something about this ?
If you are getting an error 3167 in Access then it's likely
an access error - can't tell without the error message you
get. But that's probably the case and you would want to post
your question in an access newsgroup.
-Sue
On 27 Oct 2005 08:05:38 -0700, "merco"
<d.mercanti@.gmail.com> wrote:

>HI,
>i have an access MDB linked by ODBC to SQL2k.
>I get a strange behaviour when i do an INSERT INTO to a local Mdb table
>from "LEFT OUTER JOINED" SQL tables.
>If the related table hasn't related record to the first table,
>it get an Error 3167.
>This behaviour is not present with MDB tables JOINS.
>Who know something about this ?
|||well, if i use only mdb tables this error doesn't occour.
So i suppose it's an odbc problem
|||Make sure you have a primary key or unique identifier
defined for your tables you are linking. Make sure the
primary key or unique identifier is not an approximate data
type (e.g. float). Try putting on timestamp data type column
on the tables you are linking.
-Sue
On 28 Oct 2005 00:25:17 -0700, "merco"
<d.mercanti@.gmail.com> wrote:

>well, if i use only mdb tables this error doesn't occour.
>So i suppose it's an odbc problem

3 / 2=1? Strange result in expression...HELP!

Hi Folks!

I have a strange thing happening; I have a field that Counts the number of
records and another field that shows the number of clients
(Count(RecordID)=3 and NoOfClients=2) When I do a simple expression
"Count(RecordID)/NoOfClients" the expected result should be 1.5. Instead
the result I get is 1. Any ideas?

Thanks!
RickTry converting one of the values to decimal. For example:
select 3/2 results in 1 BUT
select 3/2. should result in 1.5

Difference is in datatypes...

MC

"Rico" <you@.me.comwrote in message news:BP51h.34135$P7.18677@.edtnps90...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi Folks!
>
I have a strange thing happening; I have a field that Counts the number of
records and another field that shows the number of clients
(Count(RecordID)=3 and NoOfClients=2) When I do a simple expression
"Count(RecordID)/NoOfClients" the expected result should be 1.5. Instead
the result I get is 1. Any ideas?
>
Thanks!
Rick
>
>
>

|||That did the trick. Thanks MC. I thought it had something to do with the
data types, but being a newbie didn't think about "Decimal".

Thanks again!
Rick

"MC" <marko_culoNOSPAM@.yahoo.comwrote in message
news:ei2qf1$a13$1@.ss408.t-com.hr...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Try converting one of the values to decimal. For example:
select 3/2 results in 1 BUT
select 3/2. should result in 1.5
>
Difference is in datatypes...
>
MC
>
>
"Rico" <you@.me.comwrote in message news:BP51h.34135$P7.18677@.edtnps90...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>Hi Folks!
>>
>I have a strange thing happening; I have a field that Counts the number
>of
>records and another field that shows the number of clients
>(Count(RecordID)=3 and NoOfClients=2) When I do a simple expression
>"Count(RecordID)/NoOfClients" the expected result should be 1.5. Instead
>the result I get is 1. Any ideas?
>>
>Thanks!
>Rick
>>
>>
>>

>
>

|||Hi Rick,

you are using integers and in integer division 3/2 is 1.
Use floats or cast your numbers to floats in the calculation:

float result=((float)Count(RecordID))/((float)NoOfClients);

Regards,
Andy

Rico schrieb:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi Folks!
>
I have a strange thing happening; I have a field that Counts the number of
records and another field that shows the number of clients
(Count(RecordID)=3 and NoOfClients=2) When I do a simple expression
"Count(RecordID)/NoOfClients" the expected result should be 1.5. Instead
the result I get is 1. Any ideas?
>
Thanks!
Rick

|||Forgot to respond. Thanks! That did the trick!

"MC" <marko_culoNOSPAM@.yahoo.comwrote in message
news:ei2qf1$a13$1@.ss408.t-com.hr...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Try converting one of the values to decimal. For example:
select 3/2 results in 1 BUT
select 3/2. should result in 1.5
>
Difference is in datatypes...
>
MC
>
>
"Rico" <you@.me.comwrote in message news:BP51h.34135$P7.18677@.edtnps90...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>Hi Folks!
>>
>I have a strange thing happening; I have a field that Counts the number
>of
>records and another field that shows the number of clients
>(Count(RecordID)=3 and NoOfClients=2) When I do a simple expression
>"Count(RecordID)/NoOfClients" the expected result should be 1.5. Instead
>the result I get is 1. Any ideas?
>>
>Thanks!
>Rick
>>
>>
>>

>
>

2nd Try: Restore Database Dialog missing Backups (Archive BIT)

I have a strange problem with restoring files. I have one SQL server
installation that does not show any .BAK files that no longer have the
archive bit set. Is there a switch somewhere that I can throw to
change this back?
I have 3 other SQL server installations in different places that do
not have this issue.
Thanks,
Doug
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message
news:GPKdnbA9tLgxur_cRVn-rw@.comcast.com...
> I have a strange problem with restoring files. I have one SQL server
> installation that does not show any .BAK files that no longer have the
> archive bit set. Is there a switch somewhere that I can throw to
> change this back?
> I have 3 other SQL server installations in different places that do
> not have this issue.
You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
Steve
|||I can reset the bit, our backup is indeed changing it.
But the problem remains that the dialog that shows the backups does not show
those without the bit. Only 1 server does it. All our other servers show
it regardless of the archive bit. I was just hoping somebody out there knew
why this was happening.
Thanks,
Doug
"Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:%23qtYktIhEHA.2908@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
> command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
> resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
> files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
> Steve
>
|||AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files archive bit is set or not.
Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My guess is that your problem
is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup, verify that EM show this, set
the archive bit and check EM again.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:tcydnc2FZ7rZ_r_cRVn-vQ@.comcast.com...
> I can reset the bit, our backup is indeed changing it.
> But the problem remains that the dialog that shows the backups does not show
> those without the bit. Only 1 server does it. All our other servers show
> it regardless of the archive bit. I was just hoping somebody out there knew
> why this was happening.
> Thanks,
> Doug
> "Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
> news:%23qtYktIhEHA.2908@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
|||I have tried that. It dissapears from the selection dialog when the archive
bit is not set. When set, it appears again.
Strange...
Thanks anyway,
Doug
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:ePeJe3OhEHA.3272@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files
archive bit is set or not.
> Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My
guess is that your problem
> is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup,
verify that EM show this, set
> the archive bit and check EM again.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
|||Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how to you "click" to get
there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even thought about the archive bit
being relevant...
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:nOOdnVUDjKWVzr7cRVn-qA@.comcast.com...
> I have tried that. It dissapears from the selection dialog when the archive
> bit is not set. When set, it appears again.
> Strange...
> Thanks anyway,
> Doug
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:ePeJe3OhEHA.3272@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> archive bit is set or not.
> guess is that your problem
> verify that EM show this, set
>
|||In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
Restore Database...
"Restore Database" Dialog Box
Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
From Device selected
Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
Click Select Devices button
"Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
Disk selected
Click Add button
"Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
File Name (click the ...)
"Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
They don't show.
Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk, turned
off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
Would that have anything to do with it?
Thanks,
Doug
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how
to you "click" to get
> there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even
thought about the archive bit
> being relevant...
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
|||I tried your steps and I could not reproduce, the file did show, regardless of what I set the "the file is
ready for ..." option in Explorer (I assume this is the ol' archive bit).
I did a Profiler trace and it seems like EM is executing xp_dirtree to get this list. This might give you
something to go on when searching KB, Google etc.
Also, opening a case with MS might be an option.
I doubt is has anything to do with permissions. But who know...
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:np-dnVZYZaxf9b7cRVn-ig@.comcast.com...
> In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
> Restore Database...
> "Restore Database" Dialog Box
> Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
> From Device selected
> Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
> Click Select Devices button
> "Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
> Disk selected
> Click Add button
> "Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
> File Name (click the ...)
> "Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
> They don't show.
> ----
> --
> Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk, turned
> off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
> Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
> Would that have anything to do with it?
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> to you "click" to get
> thought about the archive bit
>
|||Interesting problem indeed -- can you use the "native" T-SQL RESTORE to
perform the database restore?
Steve
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message
news:np-dnVZYZaxf9b7cRVn-ig@.comcast.com...
> In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
> Restore Database...
> "Restore Database" Dialog Box
> Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
> From Device selected
> Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
> Click Select Devices button
> "Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
> Disk selected
> Click Add button
> "Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
> File Name (click the ...)
> "Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
> They don't show.
> ----
--
> --
> Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk,
turned
> off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
> Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
> Would that have anything to do with it?
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote
in[vbcol=seagreen]
> message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
(how
> to you "click" to get
> thought about the archive bit
>
|||I can acutally just type in the name of the file in the "Choose Restore
Destination" Dialog Box. It will restore it, they just don't show in the
dir tree.
Doug
"Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:uxhb6pUhEHA.3664@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Interesting problem indeed -- can you use the "native" T-SQL RESTORE to
> perform the database restore?
> Steve

2nd Try: Restore Database Dialog missing Backups (Archive BIT)

I have a strange problem with restoring files. I have one SQL server
installation that does not show any .BAK files that no longer have the
archive bit set. Is there a switch somewhere that I can throw to
change this back?
I have 3 other SQL server installations in different places that do
not have this issue.
Thanks,
Doug"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message
news:GPKdnbA9tLgxur_cRVn-rw@.comcast.com...
> I have a strange problem with restoring files. I have one SQL server
> installation that does not show any .BAK files that no longer have the
> archive bit set. Is there a switch somewhere that I can throw to
> change this back?
> I have 3 other SQL server installations in different places that do
> not have this issue.
You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
Steve|||I can reset the bit, our backup is indeed changing it.
But the problem remains that the dialog that shows the backups does not show
those without the bit. Only 1 server does it. All our other servers show
it regardless of the archive bit. I was just hoping somebody out there knew
why this was happening.
Thanks,
Doug
"Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:%23qtYktIhEHA.2908@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
> command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
> resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
> files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
> Steve
>|||AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files archive bit is set or not.
Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My guess is that your problem
is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup, verify that EM show this, set
the archive bit and check EM again.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:tcydnc2FZ7rZ_r_cRVn-vQ@.comcast.com...
> I can reset the bit, our backup is indeed changing it.
> But the problem remains that the dialog that shows the backups does not show
> those without the bit. Only 1 server does it. All our other servers show
> it regardless of the archive bit. I was just hoping somebody out there knew
> why this was happening.
> Thanks,
> Doug
> "Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
> news:%23qtYktIhEHA.2908@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
> > command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
> > resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
> > files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>|||I have tried that. It dissapears from the selection dialog when the archive
bit is not set. When set, it appears again.
Strange...
Thanks anyway,
Doug
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:ePeJe3OhEHA.3272@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files
archive bit is set or not.
> Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My
guess is that your problem
> is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup,
verify that EM show this, set
> the archive bit and check EM again.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/|||Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how to you "click" to get
there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even thought about the archive bit
being relevant...
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:nOOdnVUDjKWVzr7cRVn-qA@.comcast.com...
> I have tried that. It dissapears from the selection dialog when the archive
> bit is not set. When set, it appears again.
> Strange...
> Thanks anyway,
> Doug
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:ePeJe3OhEHA.3272@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files
> archive bit is set or not.
> > Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My
> guess is that your problem
> > is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup,
> verify that EM show this, set
> > the archive bit and check EM again.
> >
> > --
> > Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> > http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> > http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>|||In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
Restore Database...
"Restore Database" Dialog Box
Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
From Device selected
Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
Click Select Devices button
"Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
Disk selected
Click Add button
"Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
File Name (click the ...)
"Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
They don't show.
----
--
Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk, turned
off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
Would that have anything to do with it?
Thanks,
Doug
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how
to you "click" to get
> there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even
thought about the archive bit
> being relevant...
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/|||I tried your steps and I could not reproduce, the file did show, regardless of what I set the "the file is
ready for ..." option in Explorer (I assume this is the ol' archive bit).
I did a Profiler trace and it seems like EM is executing xp_dirtree to get this list. This might give you
something to go on when searching KB, Google etc.
Also, opening a case with MS might be an option.
I doubt is has anything to do with permissions. But who know...
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:np-dnVZYZaxf9b7cRVn-ig@.comcast.com...
> In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
> Restore Database...
> "Restore Database" Dialog Box
> Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
> From Device selected
> Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
> Click Select Devices button
> "Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
> Disk selected
> Click Add button
> "Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
> File Name (click the ...)
> "Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
> They don't show.
> ----
> --
> Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk, turned
> off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
> Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
> Would that have anything to do with it?
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how
> to you "click" to get
> > there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even
> thought about the archive bit
> > being relevant...
> >
> > --
> > Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> > http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> > http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>|||Interesting problem indeed -- can you use the "native" T-SQL RESTORE to
perform the database restore?
Steve
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message
news:np-dnVZYZaxf9b7cRVn-ig@.comcast.com...
> In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
> Restore Database...
> "Restore Database" Dialog Box
> Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
> From Device selected
> Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
> Click Select Devices button
> "Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
> Disk selected
> Click Add button
> "Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
> File Name (click the ...)
> "Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
> They don't show.
> ----
--
> --
> Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk,
turned
> off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
> Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
> Would that have anything to do with it?
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote
in
> message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to
(how
> to you "click" to get
> > there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even
> thought about the archive bit
> > being relevant...
> >
> > --
> > Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> > http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> > http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>|||I can acutally just type in the name of the file in the "Choose Restore
Destination" Dialog Box. It will restore it, they just don't show in the
dir tree.
Doug
"Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:uxhb6pUhEHA.3664@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Interesting problem indeed -- can you use the "native" T-SQL RESTORE to
> perform the database restore?
> Steve

2nd Try: Restore Database Dialog missing Backups (Archive BIT)

I have a strange problem with restoring files. I have one SQL server
installation that does not show any .BAK files that no longer have the
archive bit set. Is there a switch somewhere that I can throw to
change this back?
I have 3 other SQL server installations in different places that do
not have this issue.
Thanks,
Doug"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message
news:GPKdnbA9tLgxur_cRVn-rw@.comcast.com...
> I have a strange problem with restoring files. I have one SQL server
> installation that does not show any .BAK files that no longer have the
> archive bit set. Is there a switch somewhere that I can throw to
> change this back?
> I have 3 other SQL server installations in different places that do
> not have this issue.
You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
Steve|||I can reset the bit, our backup is indeed changing it.
But the problem remains that the dialog that shows the backups does not show
those without the bit. Only 1 server does it. All our other servers show
it regardless of the archive bit. I was just hoping somebody out there knew
why this was happening.
Thanks,
Doug
"Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:%23qtYktIhEHA.2908@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You can change the archive bit from a command prompt with the ATTRIB
> command. It sounds like you may have backup software running that is
> resetting the bit. This should not prevent you from restoring any backup
> files, perhaps there is something else going on here?
> Steve
>|||AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files archi
ve bit is set or not.
Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My gue
ss is that your problem
is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup, verify
that EM show this, set
the archive bit and check EM again.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:tcydnc2FZ7rZ_r_cRVn-vQ@.comcast.com...

> I can reset the bit, our backup is indeed changing it.
> But the problem remains that the dialog that shows the backups does not sh
ow
> those without the bit. Only 1 server does it. All our other servers show
> it regardless of the archive bit. I was just hoping somebody out there kn
ew
> why this was happening.
> Thanks,
> Doug
> "Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
> news:%23qtYktIhEHA.2908@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>|||I have tried that. It dissapears from the selection dialog when the archive
bit is not set. When set, it appears again.
Strange...
Thanks anyway,
Doug
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:ePeJe3OhEHA.3272@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> AFAIK, the restore dialog doesn't care at all whether the backup files
archive bit is set or not.
> Actually, it doesn't even care whether the file in question *exists*. My
guess is that your problem
> is elsewhere. You might want to troubleshoot this by doing a backup,
verify that EM show this, set
> the archive bit and check EM again.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/|||Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how to
you "click" to get
there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even thought
about the archive bit
being relevant...
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:nOOdnVUDjKWVzr7cRVn-qA@.comcast.com...

> I have tried that. It dissapears from the selection dialog when the archi
ve
> bit is not set. When set, it appears again.
> Strange...
> Thanks anyway,
> Doug
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote i
n
> message news:ePeJe3OhEHA.3272@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> archive bit is set or not.
> guess is that your problem
> verify that EM show this, set
>|||In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
Restore Database...
"Restore Database" Dialog Box
Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
From Device selected
Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
Click Select Devices button
"Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
Disk selected
Click Add button
"Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
File Name (click the ...)
"Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
They don't show.
----
--
Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk, turned
off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
Would that have anything to do with it?
Thanks,
Doug
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Strange indeed. Can you point me to exactly what dialog you refer to (how
to you "click" to get
> there) and I'll give it a spin. I've never encountered this, or even
thought about the archive bit
> being relevant...
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/|||I tried your steps and I could not reproduce, the file did show, regardless
of what I set the "the file is
ready for ..." option in Explorer (I assume this is the ol' archive bit).
I did a Profiler trace and it seems like EM is executing xp_dirtree to get t
his list. This might give you
something to go on when searching KB, Google etc.
Also, opening a case with MS might be an option.
I doubt is has anything to do with permissions. But who know...
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message news:np-dnVZYZaxf9b7cRVn-ig@.comcast.com...

> In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
> Restore Database...
> "Restore Database" Dialog Box
> Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
> From Device selected
> Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
> Click Select Devices button
> "Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
> Disk selected
> Click Add button
> "Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
> File Name (click the ...)
> "Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
> They don't show.
> ----
--
> --
> Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk, turne
d
> off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
> Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
> Would that have anything to do with it?
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote i
n
> message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> to you "click" to get
> thought about the archive bit
>|||Interesting problem indeed -- can you use the "native" T-SQL RESTORE to
perform the database restore?
Steve
"Doug Crabtree" <not@.gonna.tell> wrote in message
news:np-dnVZYZaxf9b7cRVn-ig@.comcast.com...
> In Enterprise Manager, Right click on Databases, and select All Tasks ->
> Restore Database...
> "Restore Database" Dialog Box
> Restore as database: <<DBNAME>>
> From Device selected
> Restore backup set (Database - complete) selected
> Click Select Devices button
> "Choose Restore Devices" Dialog Box
> Disk selected
> Click Add button
> "Choose Restore Destination" dialog box:
> File Name (click the ...)
> "Backup Device Location - <<SERVERNAME>>" Dialog box:
> They don't show.
> ----
--
> --
> Interesting, though ... I copied one of the backups to another disk,
turned
> off the archive bit, and it showed there. Something about that drive?
> Permissions? We have the Server running as an administrator's account.
> Would that have anything to do with it?
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote
in
> message news:OtgmcOShEHA.1156@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
(how[vbcol=seagreen]
> to you "click" to get
> thought about the archive bit
>|||I can acutally just type in the name of the file in the "Choose Restore
Destination" Dialog Box. It will restore it, they just don't show in the
dir tree.
Doug
"Steve Thompson" <stevethompson@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:uxhb6pUhEHA.3664@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Interesting problem indeed -- can you use the "native" T-SQL RESTORE to
> perform the database restore?
> Steve

2006-09-13 15:24:18.07 Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 16.

well this is a strange one.

i have a sql 2005 server express running on a pc. it has an xp embedded database on it.

i can connect to it from one pc using component database manager.

however, if i try this from another pc it fails with the following code

2006-09-13 15:24:18.07 Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 16.
2006-09-13 15:24:18.07 Logon Login failed for user 'HOSTNAME\Guest'. [CLIENT: XX.XX.XX.XX]
.

i have simple file sharing turned of on the remote pc that fails to connect.

what is my problem.

YOu will have to disable simple filesharing at the WIndows box, because the user will be otherwise authenticated by the Guest user.

HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.

http://www.sqlserver2005.de

|||

This has been done on both db client pcs the one that failed and the one that succeded.

explorer->tools->folder options->view->Use simple file sharing checkbox.

i unchecked this checkbox.

i then rebooted the client pc.

thanks,

|||

Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 11.

I'm using Sql server 2005 on vista.....

please give me some hints to solve the problem, thanks a lot!

Min

2006-09-13 15:24:18.07 Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 16.

well this is a strange one.

i have a sql 2005 server express running on a pc. it has an xp embedded database on it.

i can connect to it from one pc using component database manager.

however, if i try this from another pc it fails with the following code

2006-09-13 15:24:18.07 Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 16.
2006-09-13 15:24:18.07 Logon Login failed for user 'HOSTNAME\Guest'. [CLIENT: XX.XX.XX.XX]
.

i have simple file sharing turned of on the remote pc that fails to connect.

what is my problem.

YOu will have to disable simple filesharing at the WIndows box, because the user will be otherwise authenticated by the Guest user.

HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.

http://www.sqlserver2005.de

|||

This has been done on both db client pcs the one that failed and the one that succeded.

explorer->tools->folder options->view->Use simple file sharing checkbox.

i unchecked this checkbox.

i then rebooted the client pc.

thanks,

|||

Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 11.

I'm using Sql server 2005 on vista.....

please give me some hints to solve the problem, thanks a lot!

Min